Interview With Female Circumcision Specialist
Scarlet: I don't normally post material of the web but I thought this would fit well with my superheroine circumcision stories.
This is the fate of many Saudi women and,
guess what? quite a few kidnapped western girls as well while our own
governments look studiously away in the direction only of oil! Translated
private interview from Saudi Arabia forwarded to me (RZ) & many others in a
desperate attempt to get the word out
Doctor Muzaffar: I have a medical practice in Jizan, Saudi Arabia which I
practice female circumcision. I am a Egyptian and still spend much time there,
but spend much time at my clinic in the Kingdom. My husband travels with me.
Female circumcision is well established in Egypt and is now spreading in the
Kingdom from the Tihama region of the Arabian peninsula. The locals have
practiced in for many years and now the Saudi religious police have encouraged
its spread in the Kingdom.
RZ: Why did you pick there to set up your practice if female Circumcision is
easily available.
Doctor Muzaffar: I was recruited in my homeland, Egypt, by the religious police
as circumcising the young may be done by midwives, there was few trained female
Doctors in the kingdom that had experience in circumcising grown women.
RZ: Religious police?
Doctor Muzaffar: Yes , this is the new more tolerant religious police, where in
the past Prostitution or Adultery was punishable by stoning , now sometimes
they simply have the accused circumcised and , or infibulated. They bring them
to my clinic and they are my guest for a day or two. I also Train nurses for
the religious police to preform female circumcision. after a training period
they are moved to female hospitals in other Kingdom cities. Clitoridectomy is
not not a hard thing to learn for the average nurse. The religious police feel
that female circumcision has many positive benefits. It calms women, ends
lesbian activities, discourages adultery and prostitution. It allows women to
concentrate on being good wives and mothers.
RZ: I thought that female circumcision was limited in Saudi Arabia.
Doctor Muzaffar: that was true for the most part in the past, it has always
been present along the red sea and the areas that boarder Yemen. In the last
few years it has grown allot spreading throughout the Kingdom. The west would
have no way of knowing as women and women's issues are kept private. And the
foreign women that are guest in the harems are kept out of sight. With modern
security, there is little chance that once they are here that anyone will hear
from them again. Even if they managed to escape the harem it would be all but
impossible for them to escape Saudi Arabia. The religious police would return
them to their masters. Currently I would say that at least 25% of all women in
Saudi Arabia are circumcised. It is growing popularity and with the growing
number of trained midwives within a generation all women who have bore a child
should have had the tip of their clitoris removed.
RZ: What is your clinic like?
Doctor Muzaffar: State of the art. All female staff as this is women's
business. My husband handles the dealings with the authorities and various male
clients but he is not allowed into the secure treatment wing. The facility has
no windows but is air conditioned which is a benefit as it is very hot and
humid here in Jizan. For security there is only one entrance, an electric
garage door. When a patient arrives the auto or van enters the garage door
after putting a security code into electronic box. The inner door wont open
till the outer one closes. Much of my 12 person female staff lives on site as
well as all nurse trainees. There are food preparation facilities as well as 36
patient rooms and three treatment rooms, everything we need under one roof.
RZ: What are the patient rooms like?
Doctor Muzaffar: Very spartan, Small shower and toilet area, a bed. no window,
no door knob on inside, remember some of our guest are wards of the Religious
police. They would be hard to deal with if we lost one. each room has a video
monitor that feeds to a central control center for monitoring.
RZ: What are the treatment rooms like?
Doctor Muzaffar: Tiled in white floors, ceilings, walls. Kept spotlessly clean.
Very bright and well lit. there is various medical equipment and supplies. And
of course the treatment table.
RZ: What are the treatment tables like?
Doctor Muzaffar: Again state of the art. It is very important that the patient
not move during the operation and my table sees to that. It has a stainless
steel frame and black leather padding. Unactivated it looks more like a lounge
chair. The patient is led into the treatment room in a white gown and ask to
sit. Once seated my assistants secure their charge to the treatment chair.
Straps above and below the knee as well as across the instep of each foot. Wide
leather straps across the belly above and below the breast. Another wide quite
tight strap across the lower belly. The wrist are placed in leather cuffs back
against the chair even with the shoulders. Then the chair tips back and the
legs spread into the classical Gyno chair. There are metal curves under the
knees. The patient finds herself on her back Head down , legs spread. The
activation of the chair tightens all the straps very securely. She will find
she is totally immobilized. Once secured we shave the pubic hair, the area is
cleaned with soap, then we treat the entire area with an antiseptic. At this
point she is ready for me to circumcise her. If allowed by the authorities I
take a needle and deaden the nerves around and leading to the clitoris. I start
giving injections in a radial configuration. The last I give an injection under
the clitoris into the main nerve. In most cases they will tense and groan a
little at this point as the nerve is deadend.
RZ: What about a gag?
Doctor Muzaffar: No I don't see that as needed as we pay little attention to
anything the patient says. If she is being cut on orders of the Religious
police then one of my nurses places a rubber tongue depressant into the
patients mouth and holds it into place. also a strap across the forehead is put
into place and tightened . This gives her something to bite on as she is cut.
The religious police dint allow us to use pain killers The patients from other
sources I give injections into the local areas and they feel nothing. Most go
to the table without much fuss , but some we have to drag kicking and
screaming.
Some young brides are brought in and we simply clip the tip of their clitoris
off. It's pretty minor but very effective at controlling female behavior. Also
I have a growing demand from the estates of the ruling class. In the Kingdom
men can have up to four wives and many concubines. Some of the princes have many
more than four wives. We have many very rich men and they have palaces where
their women are kept out of site. It has become quite fashionable for a wealthy
man to have his concubines circumcised. This also makes the religious leaders
happy in knowing that many of these concubines are circumcised and their
sexuality is controlled. Many religious leaders feel that it is a woman's place
to provide pleasure to the male and bear children without receiving pleasure
themselves, especially if they are infidel women.
RZ: Infidel women?
Doctor Muzaffar: Yes, from many places, like the Balkans, Russia, Greece,
France, Ireland and much of Europe. a few from America and other nations.
Scandinavia is very popular. The young , the pretty, the stupid... Many college
girls. They are easy to acquire. Some of the rich will go on hunting trips as
they are called. They simply seduce a bird that they fancy, fly her to the
Kingdom where she simply disappears into a harem to never be heard from again.
Many of the older Princes will hire a recruiter to find him the right
candidate. Once here she is turned over to the old man to do with as he
pleases. Several of the recruiters bring the candidates here for circumcision
to calm them down before going onto their final destination. It is surprising
how few western women know what female circumcision is. As a general rule when
they arrive here they have no idea what we plan to do to them. You can imagine
their surprise when they discover that we have removed their clitoris.
RZ: Are these women not looked for? What about their governments?
Doctor Muzaffar: Their governments don't care, they only want oil; if a few of
their women end up in harems, they couldn't care less. The women will never be
heard from again. They are kept locked away where they please their master and
bear his children. The circumcision calms them and prevents them from
masturbating and dreaming of their past life and old boyfriends.
RZ: Tell me about the circumcision procedure?
Doctor Muzaffar: It's about the clitoris. There are variation but the removal
of the clitoris is central. The majority of circumcisions are simply snipping
it off. This is most effective in controlling female behavior. 90% of the
pleasure nerves are in the very tip. By just snipping off the tip will have the
desired effect on female behavior. Masturbation will no longer be an option,
they will find it just doesn't work anymore and will loose interest in trying
to climax through masturbation. I have been training a steady stream of midwives
who duties in the Kingdom outside of assisting with births is to see that no
new mother leaves the maternity ward with her clitoris. This is a good time to
circumcise women. with all the trauma from the birth the snipping the tip of
the clitoris is hardly noticed, many women wont even notice its gone till the
return to regular relations with their husbands. This makes her a better mother
and wife. The religious police insist on clitoridectomy, .excision of the labia
minora, incision of the labia majora and resewing it, leaving only a tiny hole
to urinate out of. Also the clitoridectomy is far more in depth than just
snipping the tip , the entire root is cut out. This is done to prostitutes and
women taken in adultery.
I first take a hand clamp tool and grasp the clitoris and pull it out from the
body and I make a oval incision around the base of the clitoris. With a scalpel
I cut the surrounding flesh till the clitoris is held by the root. Below the
clitoris head the main clitoris nerve I pull on the clitoris as hard as
possible, pulling it by the attached nerve as far from the body as possible.
and make a clean cut as deep as possible. There is allot of the clitoris that
is removed that is not in the simple procedure. I then excision the labia
minora followed by the incision of the labia majora and then I sew the mouth of
the Vagina closed connecting the raw edges. There is a small hole to urinate
out and pass menstrual blood. Not being able to use pain killers as defined by
the religious police the woman are screaming and struggling but my special
chair doesn't allow any movement. I always use pain killers if allowed by law.
My signature treatment is called the harem cut. Many of the western women that
are bound for harems I do a full deep circumcision followed by a modified
infibulation. Not the sealing of the mouth of the vagina but once the clitoris
is removed I tighten the top of the vagina with a couple of stitches after a
incision at the top of the labia majora. My clients like this effect as it makes
it tighter for her master. Unless requested so I don't excision the labia
minora. I don't think it matters as there isn't enough nerves to allow
masturbation or climax during sex, though the labia minora may add to the
pleasure of the male. the male seem to like my harem cut over the snip or the
infibulation. Of course I can do lots of variations...
If a circumcision is done right, there is no chance of a future climax, ever.
The harem cut removes the clitoris and its root. The tightening of the top of
the vulva also helps to isolate any nerve root that might be left. The
tightening helps the male climax faster, thus decreasing the stimulation the
female gets. Even vigorous masturbation will be fruitless. She might as well be
rubbing her elbow. Snipping the tip might leave a small chance but when I harem
cut them there is no chance what so ever. She should not be concerned in her
pleasure but providing the male pleasure and children.
RZ: Is it not
possible to escape from Saudi
Arabia? Do the Saudi authorities take the passport of these western
women ?
Doctor Muzaffar: Once in the Kingdom, escape is all
but impossible. Women can
not travel in Saudi Arabia with out being accompanied by a male. Women
can not
drive. Should she get loose the Religious police would return her to
her
master. The Tattoo with the house crest marks who the woman belongs to.
I have
visited a few of the harems to do onsite circumcisions as some Pashas
don't
like to transport there concubines outside the walls of their harem.
These are state of the art facilities. One I visited
was surrounded by a smooth
15 foot high wall with electric wire on top, inside that is a garden.
In the
center was the palace harem. Barred window, no telephones, no
televisions.
There
were cameras everywhere. The concubines wore golden
collars that had a
shock feature if they got out of bounds. The collars used some kind of
electronic locking system. Once placed around the neck, it could not be
removed
without
a computer pass code.
There were several western women there, a dozen or
so. One was named Abigale
who was from England, about 19, Tall, blue eyes, had long blonde hair,
very
pretty. She had boarded a private jet with a Royal, she did not even
have a
passport and was flown directly To the Kingdom. She
turned out to be a gift to
a older uncle of the young royal. She wanted to return to England but
she was
her master's property now. They had me circumcise and tattoo her with
the
house
crest her belly first. The circumcision always calms them down. She was
free
now to concentrate on bearing her masters children.
The pasha who was the master of the harem was rather
old , I would say late
70s. He still enjoyed the women and sired many children even at his
age. There
was no way she was going to get out of the collar, get through the
barred
windows, scale the high wall.
Clear the electric wire on top. Should she manage
this she would find herself in a country that doesn't allow women to
roam about.
The religious police would pick her up and the tattoo on her belly
would tell
them where to return her to. Even if she had a
passport it would be of no use
to her.
On my visit to this harem I circumcised and tattooed
all the concubines and
wives - about thirty in all. All ages. One was a woman from Sweden who
had been
there sense the 70s. She was 52 and had borne the master several
children. She
had been abducted while on holiday from college, Brought to the
Kingdom, placed
in this harem and had not left there for any reason for over 30 years.
She
birthed all nine of her children there. They had me circumcise
her also. I
tightened her up quite a bit.
In short if you are a guest in a harem in Saudi
Arabia, there is no escape, the
government and society sees to it.
RZ: Are these western girls clitoris is only
removed, are they infibulated?
[Infibulation means stiching vagina closed]
Doctor Muzaffar: If the woman is brought to me by
the religious police for a
crime, say Adultery, prostitution, masturbation, then they have me
circumcise
and infibulate them. Few western women are infibulated as their purpose
is to
serve as concubines to provide
pleasure for the man and bear him children. In
the harem cut, I do stich the top of the vulva after I remove the
clitoris.
This is not like infibulation which bars entry, but tightens the grip
of the
mouth of the
vagina on the male member.
RZ: What instruments does the doctor use? Any
special equipment or instruments,
particularly for the Western women?
Doctor Muzaffar: A curved crescent scalpel, surgical
scissors, grasping
forceps, surgical retractors, surgical knives, needle syringes,
alligator
forceps, laryngeal mirrors, alpha-wave inducer. This is a device, worn
on the
forehead
which induces variable levels of
unconsciousness, from sleep to
complete anesthesia. The effect wears off approximately 15 minutes
after the
device is deactivated. Alpha-wave induction is a good alternative to
drug-induced general
anesthesia in
surgical patients... Neural imaging scan test
that provides detailed information about a patient’s central
nervous system
function, I have used this device to study the best techniques to make
circumcision as effective as
possible. I
have started using a snare wire which
is a very fine and sharp cutting tool that consists of a fine but
strong wire
and a handle. They are quite commonly used in endoscopic surgery for
cutting
tumors and polyps. The wire is
placed around the base of the
clitoris,
cauterized and then severed with the wire loop. I have found that this
works
well in performing clitoridectomy.